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One right Religion?
« Thread Started on Mar 7, 2005, 8:43pm »
Do you all believe that there is only one correct religion and everything else is wrong? If so how can you justify that only what you believe is right and others are wrong?

Personally I feel that no religion by itself is correct and that it probably lies somewhere in the middle of it all. But I guess i woudln't be the person to claim that since i don't really believe in a God yet.
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There'll definetly be something wrong in it if its man made .. it has to be PERFECT if it's really made by God .. at the core of every religion they all believe in one God .. or something supernatural some sort of power/force/intelleigence etc .. its not fair to look at one and classify all the rest the same or give all of them a quick peek and reject God all together .. and its not right at all to look at the people of that religion in todays day and then make judgment on religion. you gota look at the thing it self ..

In Hinduism there is Brahman, the Ultimate, ONE power of the entire universe. The different qualities of Brahman are the different 'idols' that the Hindus worship. They believe the many idols represent a certain attribute of God. This form of religion is called pantheistic.

Buddhists believe in the system of Karma. "What goes around comes around." This is also from Hinduism. This eternal system which 'judges' and places souls into corresponding existences depending on their actions is the One God, though they don't see this system as God. The ultimate aim is to attain 'nirvana'. Freedom from the madness of this world, and unification with all that exists (unification with God who is everything). Sikhs too believe in One God.

Judaism teaches the belief in the One God, but the earlier Jews would pluralise Him and accept the existence of other gods. These days the Jews have become more monotheistic but there is too great a sense of pride and 'highness above all other nations'. Practice of the Law of Moses is dying. They give the impression that God 'belongs to them and is not the God of other people'.

Christians too believe in One God, though their religion is a trinitarian one. Hinduism has a centralised trinitarian view of God. Brahman/God is the whole of the three: Brahma (Creator); Vishnu (Preserver) and Shiva (Destroyer). In trinitarian Christianity it is the Father (the Creator); the Son (the Word/the means of salvation) and the Holy Spirit (the force behind).

You can study as many religions as you want, but do so with an open mind free from conditionings. You will realise all religions are based on the Ultimate who they may describe as eternal, creative, powerful, good, universal, total etc.

The differences lie in what they do with this central belief. Most of the religions will split this Ultimate into different parts, which is wrong. If God/Ultimate is infinite then you cannot divide Him/It into parts. Infinity divided by whatever is still infinity. If you can begin to split the Ultimate into three, you can also split those into 9, then 27 etc etc. You could split infinite into as many numbers as you'd like (even into 99999999999999999) but you'd still have infinite of infinite. It makes no sense to divide it up does it?

All religions which even begin to split the Ultimate/God start making their religion confusing and it seems to be nothing more than nonsense. How many Christians actually admit understanding the trinity?

The next problem is concentration and devotion to the Ultimate. Whilst they will tell you the Ultimate/God is who their devotion is really going to, you'll find them devoting themselves to a specific 'god/idol' (in Hinduism) or Jesus (in Christianity) completely separating and differentiating God into 'parts'. Whilst these people do not realise it, they do anger the Lord who is who He is, One, unique and inifnite.

The only religion that is strict in monotheism is Islam, it is known for this trait. It makes sense to people and that is why people revert (revert is a more appropriate word than convert) to Islam more so than any other religion. Islam is structured, organised and fresh with the newest set of revelations from God. It is a practicing religion that involves people into regular prayer, charity, social activities, fasting, education, life, community, racial harmony etc etc etc. There is no racism in Islam, which also helps attract more reverts. There is not much need to mention about the Jewish portrayal of 'their God' who has 'chosen them'.

Islam is practical, the middle path, the religion of moderation, the witness of all other religions. Those who uphold the true values of Islam enjoy the truth of all religions and are able to live side-by-side with people all over the world. A 'Muslim' is one who lives by 'Islam', which means 'Submission to God's Will'. It is not like 'Christ-ianity' which bases itself upon Christ, nor like 'Juda-ism' which bases itself upon the people of Judah nor like 'Hindu-ism' which bases itself on the Hindu/Indus people nor like 'Buddh-ism which bases itself on the Buddha. There is no other religion that bases itself and its name on submission to God or the Ultimate.

There'r so many reasons for me to believe in this religion. Some are personal experiences and some are from the knowledge given in Islam and how true it turns out to be given any situation.

You have been given freedom and choice to choose whichever path you like, if any. Use your knowledge, judgement and insight to do what is best for you. Don't take other people's words, see things for yourself. If there is a God and He has chosen to give you the free will to believe in Him or not, then no 'believer' should think he or she has the right to 'force' their ideas on you.

Look at everything. Then make your decision. Those who are insecure in their own beliefs will ridicule people of other beliefs and not even try to understand them, fearing that what they believe might be proved wrong. A person who actually understand what he believes in and does not believe in blind faith will hear out the words of all people with an open mind and make his own judgements.

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In the creation of the heavens and the earth,
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the manipulation of the winds and the clouds that are placed between the sky and the earth,
there are sufficient proofs for people who understand.

(2:164)

I dono if what i've written would help you at all. i know for sure that i havent said enough coz there's so much to say but im not one of those great speakers .. i tried my best to give my view on your question ... dont mind anything i said .. k bye
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Re: One right Religion?
« Reply #2 on Mar 8, 2005, 9:17pm »
wow u'r really knowledgable about this stuff :) i'm glad u'r part of this forum.
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Re: One right Religion?
« Reply #3 on Jul 15, 2005, 1:23pm »
The answer to your question is still unanswered in the previous post. And I will answer it for you now. There is one right answer. Even if God does not exist, there is only one right answer. The answer that is correct is the one that is identical with the real. For example:

I hold a red apple

You see it and think it is a red ball - you are right in that it is red and spherical, but not totally correct

Someone else thinks it is a tomato - closer, it is red, a fruit (by definition of the word), and spherical but still not it.

Lastly another thinks it is an apple - this is correct. It actually correlates to the real.


Since there is only one right correlation to the real, there is only one right religion. And for those seeking it I say this to you. Remember that there is only one right path to heaven. Progress is moving toward the goal. If you are on the wrong path it is better to turn around and get on the right path that to digress by going on the wrong path. Although some paths contain more truth (more toward the goal) than others.
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Re: One right Religion?
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There'll definetly be something wrong in it if its man made .. it has to be PERFECT if it's really made by God .. at the core of every religion they all believe in one God .. or something supernatural some sort of power/force/intelleigence etc .. its not fair to look at one and classify all the rest the same or give all of them a quick peek and reject God all together .. and its not right at all to look at the people of that religion in todays day and then make judgment on religion. you gota look at the thing it self ..

In Hinduism there is Brahman, the Ultimate, ONE power of the entire universe. The different qualities of Brahman are the different 'idols' that the Hindus worship. They believe the many idols represent a certain attribute of God. This form of religion is called pantheistic.

Buddhists believe in the system of Karma. "What goes around comes around." This is also from Hinduism. This eternal system which 'judges' and places souls into corresponding existences depending on their actions is the One God, though they don't see this system as God. The ultimate aim is to attain 'nirvana'. Freedom from the madness of this world, and unification with all that exists (unification with God who is everything). Sikhs too believe in One God.

Judaism teaches the belief in the One God, but the earlier Jews would pluralise Him and accept the existence of other gods. These days the Jews have become more monotheistic but there is too great a sense of pride and 'highness above all other nations'. Practice of the Law of Moses is dying. They give the impression that God 'belongs to them and is not the God of other people'.

Christians too believe in One God, though their religion is a trinitarian one. Hinduism has a centralised trinitarian view of God. Brahman/God is the whole of the three: Brahma (Creator); Vishnu (Preserver) and Shiva (Destroyer). In trinitarian Christianity it is the Father (the Creator); the Son (the Word/the means of salvation) and the Holy Spirit (the force behind).

You can study as many religions as you want, but do so with an open mind free from conditionings. You will realise all religions are based on the Ultimate who they may describe as eternal, creative, powerful, good, universal, total etc.

The differences lie in what they do with this central belief. Most of the religions will split this Ultimate into different parts, which is wrong. If God/Ultimate is infinite then you cannot divide Him/It into parts. Infinity divided by whatever is still infinity. If you can begin to split the Ultimate into three, you can also split those into 9, then 27 etc etc. You could split infinite into as many numbers as you'd like (even into 99999999999999999) but you'd still have infinite of infinite. It makes no sense to divide it up does it?

All religions which even begin to split the Ultimate/God start making their religion confusing and it seems to be nothing more than nonsense. How many Christians actually admit understanding the trinity?

The next problem is concentration and devotion to the Ultimate. Whilst they will tell you the Ultimate/God is who their devotion is really going to, you'll find them devoting themselves to a specific 'god/idol' (in Hinduism) or Jesus (in Christianity) completely separating and differentiating God into 'parts'. Whilst these people do not realise it, they do anger the Lord who is who He is, One, unique and inifnite.

The only religion that is strict in monotheism is Islam, it is known for this trait. It makes sense to people and that is why people revert (revert is a more appropriate word than convert) to Islam more so than any other religion. Islam is structured, organised and fresh with the newest set of revelations from God. It is a practicing religion that involves people into regular prayer, charity, social activities, fasting, education, life, community, racial harmony etc etc etc. There is no racism in Islam, which also helps attract more reverts. There is not much need to mention about the Jewish portrayal of 'their God' who has 'chosen them'.

Islam is practical, the middle path, the religion of moderation, the witness of all other religions. Those who uphold the true values of Islam enjoy the truth of all religions and are able to live side-by-side with people all over the world. A 'Muslim' is one who lives by 'Islam', which means 'Submission to God's Will'. It is not like 'Christ-ianity' which bases itself upon Christ, nor like 'Juda-ism' which bases itself upon the people of Judah nor like 'Hindu-ism' which bases itself on the Hindu/Indus people nor like 'Buddh-ism which bases itself on the Buddha. There is no other religion that bases itself and its name on submission to God or the Ultimate.

There'r so many reasons for me to believe in this religion. Some are personal experiences and some are from the knowledge given in Islam and how true it turns out to be given any situation.

You have been given freedom and choice to choose whichever path you like, if any. Use your knowledge, judgement and insight to do what is best for you. Don't take other people's words, see things for yourself. If there is a God and He has chosen to give you the free will to believe in Him or not, then no 'believer' should think he or she has the right to 'force' their ideas on you.

Look at everything. Then make your decision. Those who are insecure in their own beliefs will ridicule people of other beliefs and not even try to understand them, fearing that what they believe might be proved wrong. A person who actually understand what he believes in and does not believe in blind faith will hear out the words of all people with an open mind and make his own judgements.

This is a scripture that we sent down to you,
that is sacred—perhaps they reflect on its verses.
Those who possess intelligence will take heed.

(38:29)

In the creation of the heavens and the earth,
the alteration of night and day,
the ships that roam the ocean for the benefit of the people,
the water that God sends down from the sky to revive dead land and to spread in it all kinds of creatures,
the manipulation of the winds and the clouds that are placed between the sky and the earth,
there are sufficient proofs for people who understand.

(2:164)

I dono if what i've written would help you at all. i know for sure that i havent said enough coz there's so much to say but im not one of those great speakers .. i tried my best to give my view on your question ... dont mind anything i said .. k bye



A few problems. Jews are monotheist in the truest since...and therefore your assumption about islam being the only one is false.

Secondly, you talk about how Christians believe in a trinity, but we do believe it is ONE GOD in THREE BEINGS. It is still monotheistic. And As much as anyone can understand the trinity...I think I do. For a good way to understand it for beginners see http://www.afcministry.com/Explaining_the_Trinity.htm
Please be careful when saying things like that...Sladerous misjudgements can be seen as attacks. Also, remember...for true old fashioned Islamics - they truly believed in the same God as the Jews until the split in the old Testament. They believe that even though the blessing was given to the younger son, it was done through trickery and therefore not truly given...thus they see themselves as the decendents of Esua and Jews as the decendants of Jacob.
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